Unregistered, no papers...

[FantaMini]

I need some help here, buying a 1966 MKI from a friend, the car he possess does not have paperwork. 

How would I go about getting paperwork together for this car? I understand it is a LENGTHY and almost IMPOSSIBLE feat, but maybe someone here has POSITIVE experience that they could share with me?

Thanks
J

[DomMINIque]

Your man here is Abri as he has actually done this before.

However it is not impossible.

The steps go something along the lines of: (this assumes you don't have a single piece of paper and it is not on the eNatis system)

Get the car data dotted
Obtain a police clearance cetificate
Obtain a roadworthy certificate
Obtain a weighbridge certificate
Take the data dot certificate and police clearance certificate to licensing department to have introduced and registered onto the system. Takes a week or two before you get your papers.

Keep in mind that the car will be registered as a code 3 and date of first registration will be in the current year and not '66 which obviously effects the value somewhat.

Here is a link of a more in detailed process:
http://www.carforums.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26775

Your biggest pain is it's up and down to the licensing department a few times and being very patient with government officials who aren't very helpful.

[FantaMini]

Your man here is Abri as he has actually done this before.

However it is not impossible.

The steps go something along the lines of: (this assumes you don't have a single piece of paper and it is not on the eNatis system)

Get the car data dotted
Obtain a police clearance cetificate
Obtain a roadworthy certificate
Obtain a weighbridge certificate
Take the data dot certificate and police clearance certificate to licensing department to have introduced and registered onto the system. Takes a week or two before you get your papers.

Keep in mind that the car will be registered as a code 3 and date of first registration will be in the current year and not '66 which obviously effects the value somewhat.

Here is a link of a more in detailed process:
http://www.carforums.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26775

Your biggest pain is it's up and down to the licensing department a few times and being very patient with government officials who aren't very helpful.

Thanks of that info....will certainly look into this.

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Your man here is Abri as he has actually done this before.

However it is not impossible.

The steps go something along the lines of: (this assumes you don't have a single piece of paper and it is not on the eNatis system)

Get the car data dotted
Obtain a police clearance cetificate
Obtain a roadworthy certificate
Obtain a weighbridge certificate
Take the data dot certificate and police clearance certificate to licensing department to have introduced and registered onto the system. Takes a week or two before you get your papers.

Keep in mind that the car will be registered as a code 3 and date of first registration will be in the current year and not '66 which obviously effects the value somewhat.

Here is a link of a more in detailed process:
http://www.carforums.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26775

Your biggest pain is it's up and down to the licensing department a few times and being very patient with government officials who aren't very helpful.

Thanks of that info....will certainly look into this.

A couple of questions: 

1) What exactly is the process of getting a car "data dotted" and where do I get that done?
    Do I need the physical car for that?
2) Then I guess after the whole process, from code 3 onwards, I then have to get the RWC etc....Up until that point its just to get papers and registered to my name...correct?

[DomMINIque]

Data dotting is the process of providing a unique "morse code" style identification to the car. If the car is ever stolen and the vin plates are removed then the car can be identified through it's data dots.

There are a few companies that specialise in data dotting where they put the "dots" in a "secret" location. Data dots also won't be affected by painting and bodywork.

As far as I know you can register the car pending roadworthy, then they just withhold the license disc until they get the roadworthy certificate.

Most guys get all the documentation done one shot because of the issue of moving the vehicle around. The car has to be present for data dotting (you may find someone who comes out to you, I haven't looked into this) but it definetly has to be present at police clearance. Weighbridge as well

A word of caution when it comes to police clearance. Make sure that everything is all fine and dandy (car hasn't been reported stolen) tags haven't been modified etc. As they will confiscate the car on the spot.

Take the vin/engine number/old number plates to a license department so they can check this for you. Ideally before you buy the car.
People who have access to eNatis can also do this for you but they generally aren't very willing (banks, roadworthy centres, traffic departments, post offices have access to local municipality databases.

[DomMINIque]

[FantaMini]

Thanks for the advice...much appreciated

[abri]

I see I have already replied, haha, thanks Dominique

Basically, start with a phone call to your local traffic department (if you suspect the car was licensed in the last decade or so). Tell them you're a potential buyer and you would like to know whether they have record of the car on their system. If they do, its doesn't need to be reintroduced, so you can skip those steps in the list above. If they can't see it on the system (they can only see eNatis), phone the police clearance office who can access the archives. It helped me that I had a license disk and a copy of old registration papers from 1978.

It is a big schlepp and you do spend a lot of time in queues but it is worth it in the end, especially to get another Mk1 legally on the road

Show us some pics!

[DomMINIque]

Abri that screenshot is worth more than it's weight (maybe megabytes is more appropriate) in gold!

Proof that it is not impossible.

[nolanapillay@gmail.com]

I need some help here, buying a 1966 MKI from a friend, the car he possess does not have paperwork. 

How would I go about getting paperwork together for this car? I understand it is a LENGTHY and almost IMPOSSIBLE feat, but maybe someone here has POSITIVE experience that they could share with me?

Thanks
J

Hi what area you in as i may have a solution. Currently working on my mini withno papers. 0836907808

[Shukran]

At least check that it is not stolen before you spend money on it.